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halting on "Find elements surounding element!"

Verfasst: Do 28. Mär 2013, 09:51
von frans
Hello,

I have a problem whill opening projects when the structure is gettin loaded.
read nodes, read elements, find ele... , time.. are all ok
but on "Find elements surounding element!" it freezes.

what happens?

also when i know before the project was succesfull with full results and everything.
I'm not able to re-open it again because i get the same problem.

any solutions?, what can i do?

Re: halting on "Find elements surounding element!"

Verfasst: Do 28. Mär 2013, 11:20
von ccad
Hello frans,

i noticed this problem some times ago on a very old and less powerfull computer running Windows Vista 64 bit. The same old pal worked fine on this structure running Windows 7 32 bit. Thus, if your structure is very large and your computer is a bit short of breath - give Z88Aurora time for this procedure, just wait a bit. If this won't work:

Can you give us some informations concerning your problem:

- what Z88Aurora version do you use? --> use V2a.
- what type of computer, i.e. number of CPUs and amount of memory
- type of operating system
- size of your structure, i.e. number of nodes, elements and dof.

Be sure that we'll fix the problem.

Regards

Prof. Rieg

Re: halting on "Find elements surounding element!"

Verfasst: Do 28. Mär 2013, 12:15
von frans
Hello Prof. Rieg,

i'm using version 2.0 (aug 9 2012 16:10:16) but i'm downloading now the latest 2a version.
I think i got 4 cpu's, it's saying Xeon cpu w3550@3.07GHz and 18gb ram in windows system info
windows 7 64 bit

where can i find info about the structure exactly?
this comes from the structure file and are the highest numbers
358635 3 +1.065455e+002 -1.406731e+003 +1.960495e+003

1178539 17
352679 352680 343372 358518

thanks for your fast respond.

edit:
i have installed version 2a.
but now it stops after "find elements connected to one node!"
i'm using tetgen to mesh my step files.

Re: halting on "Find elements surounding element!"

Verfasst: Do 28. Mär 2013, 12:55
von FViebahn
Hello frans,

info on the structure can be found in the corresponding z88structure.txt in your project folder.

The first line shows the following information:

[number of dimensions of the structure, usually 3] [number of nodes] [number of elements] [number of degrees of freedom]

Further information on the z88structure.txt can be found in the theory manual, chapter 3.

Regards,
Felix Viebahn

Re: halting on "Find elements surounding element!"

Verfasst: Do 28. Mär 2013, 13:28
von frans
Hello Felix,

Thank you for the info.
the z88structure.txt reports:
3 335416 1072054 1006248 0 #AURORA_V2

any thoughts?

regards,
Frans

Re: halting on "Find elements surounding element!"

Verfasst: Do 28. Mär 2013, 13:46
von FViebahn
Hello Frans,

your system specs should be more than enough to deal with the ~1 Million DOF. Does it really stop or do you abort the process after 30 secs? When you have a lot of processes running in the background, even a seemingly fast PC will have a problem opening bigger structures. So make sure to close all unneccessary programs und wait for a couple of minutes to assure that Z88 truly stops working.

If the problem persists (and if it's legal!), you can send me your structure file or send me a download link and I will have a look at it (felix.viebahn(at)uni-bayreuth.de).

Regards,
Felix Viebahn

Re: halting on "Find elements surounding element!"

Verfasst: Do 28. Mär 2013, 15:39
von frans
Hello Felix,

Ok, so the size of the structure is the problem.
I can reduce the DOF's easy by removing some structure.
That solved the problem.

thank you!

regards frans

Re: halting on "Find elements surounding element!"

Verfasst: Fr 29. Mär 2013, 15:03
von mifris
Hello frans,

that´s perfect! By the way, do you try to simulate one single part or an assembly? Because Z88Aurora can only simulate single parts. :-)

Best regards,
M. Frisch